Truck Company Misfits

Episode 0 - The Intro

April 20, 2020 Truck Company Misfits Season 1 Episode 1
Truck Company Misfits
Episode 0 - The Intro
Show Notes Transcript

The gang tries to explain what they have in mind for the show.

Naturally, ADHD takes hold and they end up brainstorming future topics.

On this episode: Ryan Gates TJ Parrish Jeff Mrwik Rob Hunt

spk_0:   0:07
Theo. What's up, everybody? Welcome to truck company Misfits Podcast where Maddox, rogues and

spk_1:   0:17
go getters have kitchen table style discussions about the engine, truck and special operations and everything in between. This is Episode zero, which is mainly an introduction I have sitting with me, TJ Parish, Jeff Merrick and Robert Hunt. I am Ryan Gates and, ah, some of the guys were gonna be joining us later on other episodes. Or Julio Ramos. Ethan took her Palmer record. Chad Zafer is They're false. Harry Stark, Brad Youngblood, John Thompson, Bailey Reeves Jason Jonah has affectionately known as J J in Heath Heywood. First, let's get started with explaining how this all came about. AA group of us from across the country got together Over the course of several conferences like FBI, Sian Massey started teaching and sharing ideas over group texts in various social media with the goal of this spreading knowledge and doing farm and stuff with our fireman friends. And ah, now we're here and we've ah chosen this media to kind of make a podcast started kicking around the idea and ah, Verona ah, fast tracked it when it reared its ugly head. Ah, bunch of conferences got canceled. We missed each other terribly. So basically, this gives us an excuse to get together and just

spk_2:   1:48
our

spk_1:   1:49
way of looking our way of hugging. Yeah, social distance, hugging us exactly what this is. It's kind of

spk_3:   1:56
like our instructor dinners when we go teach places, but just across the internet.

spk_1:   2:03
So what we're gonna end up talking about over the course of our podcast seasons? We plan. Even though we're called truck company. Misfits were planning on talking about the engine had a stretch. What kind of techniques? People are using. What kind of hos loads what works for different types of construction, different areas, different offsets, fromthe road. All that kind of stuff will be definitely. We'll get into some truck stuff, special operations, and then we'll roll into staffing issues. Tool selection, training, how to set it up. How to run it. This one included recruit training types of Riggs. You're kind of you're on a speck committee at your department and you want to choose between ah, mid mount a rear mount or if a quince right for you. If you want to go tankless, just give you some good info and some good information. Some places to look for something that back your arguments up with the chief. Same thing with engines, Low hose, bed top, mount pump, you name it. Um, And if those are gonna be some topics, you'll you'll see, and then we'll share our information with you. And if you have some ideas out there you would like to talk about, we will most assuredly get to those and consider those for topics. Maybe you'd have you on the show and go from there. I think that's gonna be, uh, one of the

spk_3:   3:36
coolest things about this. Is it a were from all across the country? Um, we've got guys. Ah, that air that are teaching with us from the West Coast, obviously the east coast of South. You know, the Northeast. Um, but we also come from ah, a wide variety of demographics when it comes to our department's, um, you know, we've got guys that work for small departments, guys that work for bigger departments. Guys work for really big departments. And I think everybody's going to get something out of this when it comes to, um, your type of tactics tear out a two man engine. Whoa. I used to write it to managing quite a bit. Um, you know, do you write a four man engine? We've got guys that ride for man engines. It's just gonna be ah, it's gonna be nice to have that diversity when it comes to talking about tactics for even down the types of Riggs. We also have guys that air, you know, of all ranks. Got everyone from tail board fireman all the way up to Battalion chief. You know, it's just gonna be ah, it's going to be Ah, very diverse round table, if you will. And chat about, you know, everything has to do with the fire service,

spk_2:   5:01
both for figuring out as we go. Yeah. So that part of it would be interesting to listen to.

spk_3:   5:13
Yeah, So that the technical side of this guys is its new toe. All this so as ah, as we go along, hopefully the production quality gets a little bit better right now. This is this is gonna be a pretty short episode, and we'll get into our first topic. And you know, the official said one we should become it soon. Um,

spk_1:   5:35
but basically, where does the bunch of fireman making it up as we go along, just like most of us are used to Exactly said exactly. But that's where that diversity is gonna come in. Everybody brings something to the table, which is really awesome. Jeffrey, you got anything for us?

spk_0:   5:58
Uh, now, just going along with the idea of, like, said, get picking this media platform toe pass on the information that's been shared with us and continue that trend in the fire service given forwards giving back more than you've, uh, you've taken

spk_1:   6:14
Yeah, that's what I think we all share is like I said in the introduction, just doing fireman stuff with our farm in France, you know, just sharing that knowledge, sharing things. So we have come up with or experience. And hopefully that'll have a trickle down effect. And maybe somebody out there's experiencing one of those things, and we can help help them through a situation or help that battle with with a chief or howto had a win that low hose bed battle or that smooth bore battle or whatever else there is out there that you know, we've all kind of fought over the years and just a little bit of advice. Just another perspective on something.

spk_3:   6:58
Yeah, and because, you

spk_2:   7:00
know, I've never been on a

spk_3:   7:01
speck committee for, you know, a truck. Um, never been a part of that process. And, you know, the fire service goes where we all have our ideas, but we've never been a part of something in particular. And that's what I hope to gain out of. At least a couple of officers we have planned is is hearing from guys that have been on spec committees. You know, if you're pierced, guy, you've been upto Appleton and you've learned, you know, the ends and outs of how to spec a truck through peers or C graver suffering. Wherever you get your trucks fronts, it's just gonna be little things like that. You know, try to give some insight on some stuff that you might not necessarily have inside it

spk_2:   7:43
in the learned. So I mean, that's pretty much my marriage just to, uh, toe learn little bits and pieces from you guys that you may have picked up along the way, um, pain to discuss that stuff. It's more of a selfish thing, I guess. For May,

spk_3:   7:59
No and I think that I know that's one of the reasons that I that I that I teach is is to learn. Um, you keep your skill shirt

spk_1:   8:11
definitely meant That's one of the reasons I started teaching internally within the department with recruit schools is it kept me sharp. And I

spk_2:   8:20
think you go ahead, say, right

spk_1:   8:22
now to me, the best way to stay sharp and to learn something is to teach it. You want another the ins and outs you wanna expose yourself. And, uh, you really know what you don't know or get to know. What you don't know is try to teach something.

spk_2:   8:40
Yeah, I heard percent agree that I think that in the course of my life, I've run into really two types of teachers, especially fire serves. There is the type that were describing that in this. I think how most fire instructors are is they feel the ability to continue learning by teaching and, you know, honing their skills and things like that. Which is, I think, like I said, most fire starters. And then there's the other kind, which is ah, they have an inability to do things, so therefore they somehow get into the teaching world and tell people how to do it, and I'm not sure how that happens. But it does. And those I think, are the two types that you kind of run into.

spk_3:   9:22
Sure for sure. I definitely see that quite a bit. It's just I'm definitely more of a demonstration style teacher. Like I would much rather show you, then try to explain it A because it seems kind of counterintuitive to be on a podcast. But I I don't want talking a whole lot, but I'd rather show you how to do something and try to explain it while I'm doing it. Banned. Thio just tryto talk you through it and, you know, especially on the standard side or the recruit. Academy side, you know, berate you while you're doing it because you don't know how to do it when you've never been shown it before. So I mean, there the class that you know that kind of brought us all together is the brainchild of the great Julia Ramos, which is kind of everything sauce that his company by around special operation concepts puts on. And it's a really great class, especially for the up and coming generations that might not necessarily have hands on with with power tools, To be quite honest with you, um, we could say, you know, fucking millennials all we want. I myself am a millennial. I will not deny that. Guilty, huh? Yeah, it is what it is. But

spk_2:   10:54
what's the age group?

spk_3:   10:57
Uh, if

spk_0:   10:57
you're way too dangerous for the sun side. So we send so roped in tow. Yeah, yeah, blacks, But But I think you're going T j. It's it's really it's I think they say it all the time is the generation before is always having some kind of problem with the generation that's following them. So exactly fire service. It's like, say, up to us to teach guys how to do the job just like the guys before us and having should have taught us,

spk_3:   11:31
and that's that's exactly the point that I was I was trying to make. Was it? We can either bitch about it, But guess what? The fire service is going to skip a generation and, you know, go from Gen wires straight tow the next generation of Gen Z guys and skip millennials millennials are the future of the fire service percent. We have to teach them. Um, we have to get them to the point that they are comfortable with saw in their hands or any type of power tool. And just to complain about it to me is a waste of breath. Like there's no point in it. We have to get them up to speed. And the best way to do that is to teach them. And if you're not teaching them, then and in my opinion, you're nuts. Um, if you're just gonna sit in a recliner and complain that the new guy can't start a saw and the new guy can't mix fuel, you're you're the problem. It's not the millennial. That's the problem. It's It's you. That's the problem. If that guy wants to go out into the bay and learn and you're not willing to go out there and help Himmler, you are the problem. Noel. Recliner Snipers? Yep, that's his best. As I could put it.

spk_2:   12:42
In their mind, they have a huge generation. Thing is you is you said it, and I think it's hard for some people to grasp when you say, Hey, I don't what is what is to cycle makes fuel it in For a lot of people, that's just something you grew up in new from the time you were a child. And it's accepting, you know, it's understanding. Part of that is is learning, you know, as an older generation has to learn. Like you said, how to teach the new generation, not necessarily assume that they know something or don't know something. But that kind of figure out Hey, what is it that they do know so that you know how it's a teacher and for example, here we are on this podcast and we're struggling with the technical difficulties. However, some 20 year old kid comes in here and would have this thing mastered in about five minutes. Whereas we're having a teach that same kid how to mix to cycle fuel for a saw. You know, exactly

spk_0:   13:36
think we have just over

spk_2:   13:37
a skill set.

spk_1:   13:39
I think we just came up with another topic for ah, later podcast, guys. Damn.

spk_3:   13:45
Yeah, it's and it's just something that don't struggle with. But I see it happening a lot. You know, um and Jeff, I think you nailed it right on the head, is it? You know, every generation the previous generation is bitching about it. You know, um,

spk_2:   14:09
my my wife and I were talking last night, and we Facebook and social media. This in exists when we were kids. Like this stuff wasn't even a thing equated to meet each other at a bar.

spk_3:   14:21
Yeah, and like, you know, my generation, like we, we have seen such a rapid the growth of technology, you know, because I I'm basically remember the birth of the public Internet, at least not the official Internet. But, you know, when the Internet went public, um, and really became mainstream all the way up to now where you know, you have the vast majority of information at your fingertips just with your cell phone. You know, uh, it's when you think about it. The past 30 years, there's been such an explosion, and it's it's quite crazy to think about. I still remember having to go to a library if I wantto find information on something specific. But now he's typed into Google. It's, you know, sitting around the dinner table and trying to prove somebody wrong. Like, uh, well, Wikipedia says different, sir,

spk_2:   15:21
We default to the lucky jacket. Look, that up

spk_1:   15:25
has taken a little fun out of it, though, because the old debates before you could just have everything at your fingertips were hilarious.

spk_3:   15:33
Exactly. And I think you learned more when you had to go to a library. Like because it wasn't just, uh I'm gonna google, you know, a specific question and get that specific answer instantly.

spk_1:   15:45
It was The jury is, Yeah,

spk_3:   15:47
you had to go and pull out eight different library books and go sit down at a table. And, you know, wait, um, until you found your answer. Well, I don't

spk_2:   15:56
know if he learned Maur, but it's what you did learn stuck with you longer. I you had to work a lot harder for.

spk_3:   16:07
Yeah, like like Ryan said it was the journey he was getting there, you know, like research papers, actually, usedto, you know, require quite a bit of work. Whereas now it's just kind of like, Okay, you know, go to Wikipedia. Can't use Wikipedia is the source, But you can use the footnotes. That's what people don't understand. I don't get it.

spk_1:   16:32
Anybody who's going back thio school recently in the last decade. You know, Wikipedia is not a reliable sources because you can edit it from anyone can come in and edit it. It's

spk_0:   16:45
open open source contents. Gonna find those foot. That's kind of where I think. I think we're kind of in that realm right here. You know what this is? We've got so much influence from so many different areas in so many different peoples people that we provide, you know, say a vast array of knowledge, but stuff where ideologies kind of come together, where our missions where it needs to be. And so I think that kind of set us a card a little bit on what we can bring forward to this and share. And we say what we continue to share in our teaching and traveling around together.

spk_2:   17:21
Yeah, I like it. It's pretty amazing what you can find even training wise on social media. You know, Facebook, instagram, whatever. MySpace. If that's little thing, I don't know, Um but you can go in there and you can look up tons and tons and tons of information and learn stuff, but not all of it is correct or you're good, you know, and it's you have to sort of learn how to filter through, like, what is, You know, Joe Schmo kind of just went out back and came up with some some method of doing something which is not gonna be, you know, useful to the vast majority of people who just happen to work for them in that instance or whatever. Um and then being will just safer between that and what's a legitimate, you know, way of doing things.

spk_3:   18:13
Yeah, and that's a That's a good point. Like, you know, you see it a lot like, Hey, you can't train on YouTube. You know, it's one thing to go watch a YouTube video, see something go, that's interesting. And then go out in the bay and try to

spk_2:   18:28
get the idea

spk_3:   18:28
found. Exactly. And then at the same time, though, like I'm pretty big into into looking at my source, like all right, who made this video? What kind of department does he work for? Okay, because you know that particular tactic like because, you know, there's videos on YouTube of guys do in mile long, five inch lays, which fuck that. I

spk_2:   18:53
think that was taken to shift to clean up. Yeah,

spk_3:   18:59
exactly. This dude's doing, like, 60 down the road. Just fucking throw in five inch and back of this truck. And, you know, that's something my department would I'm gonna say, probably never do. But you gotta look at your source to like, These guys are probably trying to get their eyes, so rating down, deliver certain amount of water to a specific area in a specific amount of time. And that's you know what they have to do. And it's the same thing when a guy showing a specific tactic and that dude from a giant department says, Well, that's stupid. Why wouldn't you do it this way? Well, because we're riding with two main engines we don't have four guys on tragically. So we have to adapt our tactic or not even a tactic but a skill to meet our needs. And that's the kind of stuff that I think you gotta look at when you're looking at these skills on YouTube and going aren't well, that that's fucking stupid. I wouldn't do it that way because of this. Well, maybe they have to do it that way because of the way they operate.

spk_1:   19:58
Well, I think it's one of the amazing things about the Fire Department, which the fire service, I think I should say as a whole is. You know, a town a mile away can do things completely different, can have a completely different trucks set up. And that's been the way it has been for 100 and 50 years since the late 18 hundreds, where you know that the same fire engine does not do the same thing a town over and look at. Look at how Pierce and Seagrave and everybody, how they custom build fire trucks. And we have some sports out there, for God's sakes, that you know, they do a lot of things Well, when they do nothing really well, I

spk_2:   20:39
love how you just referred to an engine is a spork.

spk_1:   20:42
No, that's equipment.

spk_0:   20:43
Work went and then,

spk_1:   20:46
yeah, I mean, it's a squint sport, you know, is a platypus truck where, like, nobody's really sure what it does, but it has like a poison dart at the back. But ah, your tactics,

spk_2:   20:58
Levinson and Loyal line through some apparatus is super specific. For an area, yeah or or ah, particular use or

spk_1:   21:08
have industry in your area where you have to have, you know, seven intakes for Ah, a massive discharge or something.

spk_2:   21:15
Yeah, well, we looked at years ago. We looked at Ferrara, and then one of the things that you know, when they when your own, like a committee, They Samuel this crap, Uh, you know, Hey, look what we can do. And this and that. One of the things they had was like this pumper that did, Like, could put out, like, 5000 g pm's out of this, you know, pumper. And they portion of the show us videos over there, everything. This thing's ridiculous. I mean, I must have had 75 inch intakes going into it and for the amount of ah, water moved. Great. You know, I don't I can't think of an application for that. And I'm sure it's just a industrial setting, but it was very specific or what they dio and they saw him because people use them for stuff.

spk_1:   21:57
Yeah, and that's what I think. Ah, lot of places end up finding is your very driven by what industry and what type of demographic are you serving? And there's a lot of judgment out there, you know, from like he said earlier. All right, T. J. Said, You know this The big city guys will judge the county guys. Well, you know what? The county operations Sometimes they're a little more complex than the city operations. But you know, you take a wildly and guy who's got balls bigger than mine and jumps out of a plane with a shovel. And he's out for two weeks straight, working 12 hours on 12 hours off and ah, you know it Z, you know, hashtag same job. But at the same time, you know, it's a very different application, and, uh, I think especially on social media, with everybody being an expert, you know, we've got to get away from that. And that's where I really enjoy, you know, our chats. You know, with one text message. I can get ah, huge range of responses from you guys, and that's extremely valuable. And that's the traveling the country attending conferences. Um, I made a crap ton of connections when I was younger and in a lot better shape than doing the combat challenge running that circuit. I mean, I can call people from different countries now and gets getting s o g year. What do you guys do on? That's where relationships and everything have have really expanded my knowledge and just Ah, that's my encyclopedia now is is throw a phone call out there, throw that line where

spk_3:   23:38
we get it. You're a big deal. Yeah,

spk_2:   23:42
that's what you get from that. Guys have bigger balls than you.

spk_1:   23:46
Oh, I mean, I have I've never gotten a complaint, and

spk_3:   23:54
that's that's I I nerd out on how departments do certain things like, you know, I will ask you a 1,000,000 questions about how your department runs everything from distributing vacation time. Thio Station bids like to me, it's just like listening to how other departments run things, you know, just even outside of tactics or writing assignments. Or first do assignments. You know it. It's just it's interesting,

spk_2:   24:23
like a new one I keep hearing about. Is it the 48 96 schedule? Yeah, to me like and I guess people who ah, who are on it love it. But my first question is what happens when you like, you know, do it. It's just swap or time trade. Are you training for two days.

spk_3:   24:44
No, I think it's I think it's Ah, what? At least from the guys that I've talked to that run it, they do it in 24 hour increments. So I I want to say most of their fatigue rules or 72 hours.

spk_2:   25:00
And like I said, so some departments that probably works great, cause you don't run a lot of calls. You know, some departments are, on the other hand, um, run, You know, 20 calls after midnight. I can't imagine that people be in there for two or three days in a row like there's no way that could be good for you. Oh,

spk_3:   25:23
from from what I've heard. And I'm not speaking from experience here, So if anybody else can try men on this that's got experience with scheduled, by all means. Please. D'oh! But you know, from what I hear, um, basically, you know that that first that 1st 24 if you're if you're super busy, The nice part is you've already checked the truck out. You could kind of sleep in the next day. That's almost departments around it. You know, uh, get us much rest as you can. And throughout the night and into the morning. And then, you know, you will wake up and you're still on shift. You know that? That doesn't really say a whole lot to if you're super busy the entire 48 hours. But you also have 96 hours of recovery. And that's from what I gather, you know, reading about it and the people that are proponents of it is the recovery time. You having that? Four days of recovery time is, uh, physiologically better for you, then. You know, just having 48 order 12 depending on if you're in a 10. 14 24 48. What

spk_1:   26:31
happened? Everybody listening is understands kind of going on. This is not planned. This is Ah, I'm literally typing up future episodes as we're talking about this stuff just for ideas. So all this stuff we're talking about our good Segways into later episodes where we could do some research and really talk, are have some educated conversation about some of this stuff, and I think we've kind of talked around. And the next podcast topic, we're gonna hit ah, writing positions and tool assignments for each riding position. Oh, and that'll probably Segways into two and three million cos I'm sure, uh, and we'll see how that kind of goes. But podcast number one will be what different departments do for writing positions if you have them, and then what? 10 A tool assignments you'll have and just make sure and like and give us a five star rating. Getting that helps us out with getting getting the good word out if you like what you hear in and you like doing this kind of stuff and hearing us just chat back and forth. Um, truck company misfits at gmail dot com is our email. If you want to get in touch with us like Jeff just said, look us up on Facebook Truck up. Any misfits, podcast. Same thing on Instagram will try to get some stuff and some content up for you. It's also a good way to get in touch with us. You shoot us a message if you have a good show idea, you have, ah, any kind of data or anything that could help us out with that. We love it on. Um, just remember, you have keep leading from the front, and if you feel little dissuaded or you're one of those Mavericks or rogues or go getters. One of those go getter things, as I see it called it Go get her all the time. I usedto tick me off because it was using a derogatory, derogatory sense. And, you know, we created our little community of go getters where we're all kind of there. So if if you're one of those distant franchise guys and you want to talk, you know some fireman stuff with your fireman friends sheriffs tell us, Tell your friends about us and listen in.

spk_0:   28:45
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